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Επιστροφή στο Forum : Trinitine (Omega Sports)



beefmeup
25-01-11, 23:09
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90 Capsules
Supplement Facts
Serving Size3Capsule
Servings Per Container30

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

Creatine MagnaPower™ As Magnesium Creatine Chelate Patented By Albion Labs® 2000mg **

KCC™ As Potassium Creatine Chelate Patented By Zone Halo® 800mg **

NaCC™ As Sodium Creatine Chelate Patented By Zone Halo® 500mg **

να κ κατι ενδιαφερον..

3 μορφες κρεατινης που δεν εχουμε συνηθησει να βλεπουμε.
η πρωτη μορφη βρισκεται κ στο green magnitude(controled labs),αλλα κ στο torent(universal),κ αποτι βλεπω αρκετες εταιριες ξεκινανε να την δουλευουν αρκετα.

βασικα προκειτε για 3 μορφες κρεατινης "δεμενες" με μαγνησιο/ποτασιο/νατριο,που υποσχονται καλυτερη βιοδιαθεσιμοτητα για την κρεατινη.

τι παιζει τωρα..

η κρεατινη αποσο ξερω,αποροφαται στο κυταρο με ενα μεταφορεα νατριου.
το δεσιμο της με μαγνησιο,υσχυει κ κανει δουλεια αποτι ακουγεται,αλλα ετσι πετυχαινεις αποροφηση της κρεατινης απο διαφορετικη οδο,που σημαινει οτι μπορει να αυξανεται η βιοδιαθεσιμοτητα της.
δλδ λειτουργουν συνδιαστικα,οι μορφες κρεατινης απο διαφορετικες οδους αποροφησης,απτο σωμα σε μικροτερες δοσεις.

για να δουμε..

Dreiko
25-01-11, 23:12
απο reviews τι λεει το συγκεκριμενο??

beefmeup
25-01-11, 23:13
ιδεα δεν εχω,καινουριο ειναι:green:

αλλα εχω διαβασει κατι ψιλομελετες για την κρεατινη αυτη(με μανγησιο-κ την εβγαλαν καλυτερη),αν κ δεν ηταν σε συγκριση με μονουδρικη,αλλα με αλλη μορφη κρεατινης νομιζω..

το green magnitude παντως εχει καλες κριτικες.

Dreiko
25-01-11, 23:18
ιδεα δεν εχω,καινουριο ειναι:green:

αλλα εχω διαβασει κατι ψιλομελετες για την κρεατινη αυτη(με μανγησιο-κ την εβγαλαν καλυτερη),αν κ δεν ηταν σε συγκριση με μονουδρικη,αλλα με αλλη μορφη κρεατινης νομιζω..

το green magnitude παντως εχει καλες κριτικες.

και σχετικα καλη τιμουλα βλεπω...:green:

beefmeup
25-01-11, 23:21
κατσε να δουμε τι θα πει κ ο μικρος επιστημονας..:green::green::green:

Devil
26-01-11, 00:10
κατσε να δουμε τι θα πει κ ο μικρος επιστημονας..:green::green::green:

ναι ε?...

παρε εδω να διαβασεις....

Creatine magnesium chelate in theory is supposed to allow the creatine molecule to be absorbed into the muscle via the ligand-gated cation channel. Normally, creatine enters the cell via a sodium-dependent transporter and if this new pathway is more efficient because it only allows cations through then creatine magnesium chelate could quite possibly be a more effective ergogenic aide. Unfortunately, it has been found that there is no evidence showing that creatine magnesium chelate enhances physical performance with respect to creatine monohydrate, thus the secondary transport pathway is not more efficient but still works nonetheless (Selsby JT 2004).

What I find funny is that some companies have been using also touting that creatine magnesium chelate (magnesium creatine chelate, MCC, etc) is superior based on a study which compared magnesium oxide creatine to creatine magnesium chelate (Brilla LR 2003). The creatine magnesium chelate group showed greater power output due to greater cellular hydration compared not to creatine monohydrate, but only to an inferior magnesium oxide creatine control group. It just goes to show that you should actually read studies before you believe what some companies like to cite as supporting evidence.

Personally, I'm not saying the creatine magnesium chelate is inferior by any means. It is absorbed by a secondary pathway which could be interpreted as that when stacked with creatine monohydrate you have a greater total uptake in creatine via dual pathways. Since there are only two studies in humans (both on college aged males) the jury is still out on creatine magnesium chelate's revolutionary stigma some companies would like you to believe as being a superior form of creatine.

J Strength Cond Res. 2004 May;18(2):311-5.
Mg2+-creatine chelate and a low-dose creatine supplementation regimen improve exercise performance.

Selsby JT, DiSilvestro RA, Devor ST.
Section of Sport and Exercise Sciences, The Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA.
We tested the hypotheses that, compared with a placebo group or creatine (Cr) group, a Mg(2+)-Cr chelate group would demonstrate improvements in the 1 repetition maximum (1RM) on the bench press and be able to perform more work at 70% of the 1RM for the bench press. Thirty-one weight-trained men were randomly assigned in a double-blind manner to a placebo group (multidextran), a Cr group (2.5 g of Cr daily), or a Mg(2+)-Cr group (2.5 g of Cr daily). Baseline data were collected for the bench press 1RM and maximal work completed during a fatigue set at 70% of the 1RM. Following 10 days of Cr supplementation, follow-up tests were completed for the dependent variables. Groups were similar when the change in 1RM was evaluated either absolutely or relatively. Both the Cr and the Mg(2+)-Cr groups had significantly larger increases in work, both absolutely and relatively, when compared with the placebo group. Partial support for the hypothesis suggests that low doses of Cr are effective at increasing fiber Cr content, and consequently, performance. Further, the Cr and Mg(2+)-Cr groups were similar in both performance tests, suggesting that the proposed mechanism of entry is no better than the conventional method when 2.5 g of Cr is administered and performance is measured as work. This study raises the possibility that a low dose of Cr may be an effective means of enhancing performance after short-term ingestion.

PMID: 15142029 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Magnesium-creatine supplementation effects on body water.

Brilla LR, Giroux MS, Taylor A, Knutzen KM.

Exercise and Sport Sciences Laboratory, Western Washington University, Bellingham, WA 98225-9067, USA.

This study evaluated magnesium-creatine (MgCre) supplementation on body water and quadriceps torque. Maltodextran (Placebo), Mg oxide plus Cre (MgO-Cre), and Mg-creatine chelate (MgC-Cre) at 800 mg Mg and 5 g Cre per day were used for 2 weeks in 35 subjects in a random assignment, blinded study. Pre-post measures were completed with bioimpedance to determine total body water (TBW), extracellular water (ECF), and intracellular water (ICF), and an isokinetic device at 180 degrees per second for knee extension peak torque (T), total work (W), and power (PWR). Body weights increased for both treatment groups, MgO-Cre Delta 0.75 kg (P <.05) and MgC-Cre Delta 0.4 kg (P =.07). Significant pre-post differences (P <.05) were noted only for MgC-Cre in ICW (26.29 v 28.01 L) and ECW (15.75 v 14.88 L). MgC-Cre had significant peak T (Nm) increase (124.5 v135.8, P <.05), while MgO-Cre (116.4 v 124.9, P =.06) and placebo (119.8 v 123.7, P =.343) did not. Both treatment groups had increased PWR (P <.05). MgC-Cre affects cellular fluid compartments. The peak torque changes were significant only in the MgC-Cre group, which had increases in ICW that may infer more muscular creatine due to its osmotic effect, and with increased cellular hydration, perhaps increased protein synthesis.


δεν εχω ασχοληθει με την συγκεκριμενη...

αλλα εχει ενδιαφερον....

σε καλη μερια...

αμα βρεις τιποτα αλλο ποσταρε το....

beefmeup
26-01-11, 00:12
αν μου ελεγες οτι ηθελες να διαβασεις κατι,θα στο ποσταρα κ γω αυτο γιατι το χω διαβασει ηδη:green:

αν βρεις κατι αλλο,ποσταρε το:P

Devil
26-01-11, 00:15
αν μου ελεγες οτι ηθελες να διαβασεις κατι,θα στο ποσταρα κ γω αυτο γιατι το χω διαβασει ηδη:green:

αν βρεις κατι αλλο,ποσταρε το:P

πφφφφφφφφ....:green::green::green:

καθαρη ποση κρεατινη λες να εχει μεσα αυτο????

beefmeup
26-01-11, 00:20
καθαρη ποση κρεατινη λες να εχει μεσα αυτο????

συνολο??
μονο υποθεσεις μπορουμε να κανουμε,ξερω γω??:unsure::unsure:

επισεις διαβασα κατι για creatine non respondancy,κ τυπους μυικων ινων σε συνδιασμο με ποσοστα λιπους σωματος..(ασχετο:green:)

Devil
26-01-11, 00:35
συνολο??
μονο υποθεσεις μπορουμε να κανουμε,ξερω γω??:unsure::unsure:

επισεις διαβασα κατι για creatine non respondancy,κ τυπους μυικων ινων σε συνδιασμο με ποσοστα λιπους σωματος..(ασχετο:green:)

το κοβω για κανα 2,5γρ κρεατινης... λογικα...

τσεκαρε και το blend του ultima και θα καταλαβεις...;)

λολ???!!! τι ειναι για στειλε λινκ....