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muaythaispirit
06-05-06, 17:26
kalimera se olous!tha ithela na thixoume ena thema to opoio den einai poly syzitimeno kai afora tous xristes simpliromaton!opos oi perisoteroi apo emas etsi kai ego kana 2 fores tin bdomada kano kapoia exodo kai katanalono alkool(isos kai se psilomegales posotites...)!oli tin ypolipi bdomada asfalos kano diatrofi kai proponiseis!tha ithela na matho an yparxoun tipota epiptoseis stin ygeia apo ta sympilromata se syndiasmo me ta pota!as poume kapoia sympliromata opos px to zma prepei na ta pareis kai prin ton ypno, einai asfales na exei alkool sto stomaxi kai na ta xrisimopoieis?kamia symbouli epi tou thematos?

gorilakos
06-05-06, 23:43
kalimera se olous!tha ithela na thixoume ena thema to opoio den einai poly syzitimeno kai afora tous xristes simpliromaton!opos oi perisoteroi apo emas etsi kai ego kana 2 fores tin bdomada kano kapoia exodo kai katanalono alkool(isos kai se psilomegales posotites...)!oli tin ypolipi bdomada asfalos kano diatrofi kai proponiseis!tha ithela na matho an yparxoun tipota epiptoseis stin ygeia apo ta sympilromata se syndiasmo me ta pota!as poume kapoia sympliromata opos px to zma prepei na ta pareis kai prin ton ypno, einai asfales na exei alkool sto stomaxi kai na ta xrisimopoieis?kamia symbouli epi tou thematos?

kalitera simpliromata kai pota oxi. :?

Muscleboss
07-05-06, 12:07
an den mporeis na to apofygeis, periorisse to sto elaxisto. genika, bodybuilding + alcohol den symvadizoun.

Muscleboss

asmodeus
01-06-06, 22:44
Pola pragmata den pane mazi me tsigaro (nikotini) h alkool.

Gia paradeigma, giati kanena ormoniko farmako den paei mazi me ayta ta dyo? den exoun parenergeies, alla katastrefoun tis ousies pou exoun ta farmaka. (ta antisyliptika xapia den douleyoun an yparxoun autes oi 2 ousies).

sakisboy
02-06-06, 10:13
Pola pragmata den pane mazi me tsigaro (nikotini) h alkool.

Gia paradeigma, giati kanena ormoniko farmako den paei mazi me ayta ta dyo? den exoun parenergeies, alla katastrefoun tis ousies pou exoun ta farmaka. (ta antisyliptika xapia den douleyoun an yparxoun autes oi 2 ousies).

Sosta :x

asmodeus
02-06-06, 14:51
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ithela na matho an yparxoun tipota epiptoseis stin ygeia apo ta sympilromata se syndiasmo me ta pota!as poume kapoia sympliromata opos px to zma prepei na ta pareis kai prin ton ypno, einai asfales na exei alkool sto stomaxi kai na ta xrisimopoieis?kamia symbouli epi tou thematos?


Poly poly periliptika... To zma ayksanei thn testosteroni enw to alkool thn rixnei... To zma einai antagwnistiko me to alkool kai to asbestio. Pithanh parenergeia me to alkool (dikia mou ektimish) na exeis einai na sou kanei xalia upno, isos lypothimia kai isos mia prosorinh apoleia mnhmhs ths perasmenhs nuxtas. Kai den anaferomai se 2-3 mpures. Oso me to asbestio (an pieis gala gia paradeigma prin pas gia ypno) einai na mh doulepsei to zma.

Sigoura den xreiazesai viagra me to zma pantos :P

Epanalabete oloi meta apo mena...
"Den pinw pote aspirini me alkool, oute to prwi an exw hungover".

muaythaispirit
05-06-06, 00:09
ego fovamai gia pio xontres epipstosis apo ton xalia upno i na min doulepsei to sumpliroma sosta ekeini tin mera opos mipos na paixei tipota me to sikoti kai tetoia (ftou ftou)!uparxei tetoia pithanotita?
ego as poume se 10 meres exo kanonisei na pao mia bdomada diakopes (elafoniso-kaula) kai exo kati sumpliromata kainourgia kai skeftomai tora na ti na kano...
na ta xekiniso gia 10 meres stin elafoniso stop kai meta sunexeia, na ta paro kai stis diakopes i na perimeno?help please......

Muscleboss
05-06-06, 00:12
fysika perimene.

Muscleboss

asmodeus
05-06-06, 02:43
Tha symfonisw me to boss :)
Kalytera perimene...
Den leei na petas leyta panw apo ola :P

Sto sygkekrimeno "tsakomo" twn ousiwn (zma+alcohol), to zma tha nikisei. Alla kai pali to zma den tha kanei kai th douleia tou. To opoio tha afhsei to oinopneyma poly perisoterh ora sto aima.

Ta loipa pou eipa einai giati gia paradeigma h tequilla prokalei apoleia mnhmhs, o syndiasmos apo kitrini tequilla kai mauro roumi kanei elafres paresthiseis, ktl ktl. Dhladh opws katalabaineis oi parenergeies pou anefera ofeilontai sto oinopneyma/poto pou tha pieis poio poly kai oxi sto zma.

Panta yparxoun organismoi pou antidroun teleios diaforetika se kapoies oysies apo allous (parenergeies).

H dikia mou gnwmh sto sygkekrimeno einai:
Den tha doulepsei pou den tha doylepsei to zma mazi me oinopneyma.
Mh to pareis katholou ekeinh th nyxta kai etsi oute xalas ta leuta sou gia ekeinh th nyxta, oute paizeis/fobasai me to AN tha kanei kati 8)

muaythaispirit
05-06-06, 16:40
thanks asmodeus!ola ayta na ypotheso oti isxyoun kai gia ta oipolipa sumpliromata (opos proteines,creatines,tribulus..)?

ice-man
05-06-06, 22:10
meta apo mia nikta katanalosis alkool kai den milo gia 1-2 mpiritses alla gia posotita(xeris iparxoun fores pou den mporia na to apofigis) se athro pou diavasa sistinete anepifilakta meta to telos tis potokatanalosis na dimiourgithi ena 'kokteil' paromio me ayto tis metaproponitikis diatrofis. kai exigo tin logiki.
to alkool opos ine gnosto ektos san antagonistiko tis testosteronis prokali kai entoni apolia igron me apotelesma, igra mazi me threptikes ousies na apovlithoun apo ton organismo kata tin diarkia kai arketes ores meta tis potokatanalosis.
ara amesos meta epivalete ektos apo ena kalo geyma ena gero kokteil proteinis kreatinis glutaminis ktl gia na epanelthoun oi ousies pou apovalonde apo ton organismo se fisiologika epipeda etsi oste na metriasti kai to kako pou egine me tin potokatanalosi.
ta pio pano ta diavasa se atrho selidas gia bodybuilding kai na epitrepete mporo na tin anafero gia na diavasete perissoteres leptomeries

asmodeus
06-06-06, 01:21
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to alkool ... prokali kai entoni apolia igron
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Kai se auto kyrios ofeilete kai o ponokefalos pou niothoume to prwi meta apo gero methisi :P
An eisai teleios tyfla kai se pane se kana nosokomeio, ekei tha sou kanoun enesh kafeinis (oxi sketh).

An exeis proseksei kamia fora meta apo poto thes na fas gia "na ertheis sta isa sou". Enstiktodos ksereis oti tha xreiasteis diafora stoixeia. Edw erxere kai denei auto pou eipe o ice-man.

asmodeus
06-06-06, 02:01
thanks asmodeus!ola ayta na ypotheso oti isxyoun kai gia ta oipolipa sumpliromata (opos proteines,creatines,tribulus..)?

As doume ligo ti tha ginei an auta einai paronta tautoxrona:

Den blepw na exei diafora ti fas faghto h ti pareis proteines. Opote kai den blepw na exeis problhma me autes. Poio poly deixnei oti tha bohthisoun.

Alla as doume ligo to Alcohol vs Creatine:
To alkool kanei akribos to anapodo apo ola ta sympliromata pou perneis kai apo oti prospatheis na kaneis me to bodybuilding. Empodizei kai meionei thn paragogh insoulinhs kai ths ayksitikhs omronhs opws kai empodizei kai meionei thn synthesh twn proteinwn stous mys. H kreatini kanei akribos ayto pou thes, dhladh ayksanei thn synthesh twn proteinwn stoys mys (xwris na peirazei ormonikes leitourgies). Isws peite oti h maxh tha einai isopalia... Dystyxws den einai... To alcohol einai poly isxuroterh ousia... H kreatini den tha kanei kamia synthesh proteinwn giati to alkool tha tis to apagorepsei (pera oti an koimase oi mus den tha douleuoun opote kai kanenas logos na aporofisoun thn kreatini) kai tha thn afhsei sto aima mexri na apoblhthei. Kai den theloume na zorisoume to sikoti mas poio poly me to na prepei na apobalei th kreatinini mazi me to alkool. As mh ksexname oti ektos apo to oinopneuma kai h kreatini prokalei afydatosh kai thelei poly nero.

Kathara farmakeytika: (copy and paste)
Alcohol may be particularly damaging during creatine supplementation.

SOSTARAS
16-07-11, 10:21
παιδια απο τον μαιο μεχρι τωρα εκτοσ προτομαγια που ειπια μισο ποτηρι ρετσινα και 7 μπυρεσ μεχρι σημερα δεν εχω πιει τιποτα λογο συμπλυρωματων διατροφησ προτεινη αμινοξεα και πολυβιταμινεσ ειναι υπερβολικο μηπωσ .....δηλαδη αν ηθελα να πιω 1-2 ποτα ενα σαββατο θα πειραζε!!!