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gorilakos
22-08-05, 17:56
pira protou dyo bdomades apo ena germaniko site ena set pou apoteleite apo tin creatini XTREME PUMP tis sport nutrition international tin Proteini isolat ISOPREME tis ultimate nutrition to NITRIC5 tis EAS kai to TRIBULUS tis muscle max.Mporo na po oti epatha taraxi,poli power kai anebeno fobera.To skiniko tora einai oti eithela na kano kiklo 6 ebdomadon kai na paro to poli 4 kila kai tora eimai stin deuteri bdomada kai exo parei 3 kila,oi doseis pou perno den einai megales kai na ton afiso ton kiklo stis 3 bdomades einai koroidia.PLEASE HELP!!!!MUSCLEBOSS an mporeis to grigorotero dinato.

Oi doseis pou perno einai
XTREME PRO PUMP (proi-bradi pira proti bdomada
kai tora perno mono meta proponisi)
ISOPREME ISOLAT (Protou proponisii-meta proponisi)
NITRIC5 (proi-meta gimnastiki)
TRIBULUS(protou gimnastiki)

Muscleboss
23-08-05, 16:07
file gorilako,

katarxas i ayxisi sti dinami pou paratiries einai apolyta fysiologiki, kathos ta 3 apo ta 4 sympliromata pou xrisimopoieis epidroun thetika se ayto.

tora sxetika me ta kila pou pires, den thelo na se apogoiteyso alla einai nera, ta perissotera apo ta opoia tha xaseis otan stamatiseis tin lipsi tis XTREME PUMP. den katalavaino giati xafniazesai, logiko itan na pareis ayta ta kila se ayto to diastima.

prosopika den tha provlimatizomoun me tin ayxisi varous pou anafereis. logika an prosexeis ti diatrofi sou to poly na pareis alla ena i' dyo.

kapoies symvoules:

1) whey isolate den xreiazetai prin tin proponisi. vale whey concentarte+complex carbs (kostizei kai ftinotera)

2) ta sympliromata pou periexoun nitric oxide mporouna na theorithoun epikindina. exoun epidrasi sto priximo kata ti diarkeia tis porponisis kai tin myikotita alla den exei apodeixthei oti exoun kamia epidrasi stin ayxisi tis myikis mazas i ston anavolismo ton proteinon.

3) meiose ti dosi tis kreatinis sta 5gr meta tin proponisi mono.(gia na mi sou po na tin petaxeis kai na pareis monohydrate + dextrozi + maltodextrini)

4) se kamia periptosi mi stamatiseis ton "kyklo" sou stis 3 vdomades, thaxeis xasei to xrono sou kai ta lefta sou.

5)genika pisteyo oti i epilogi ton sympliromaton den itan kali, anexartita apo tous stoxous sou.


Muscleboss

gorilakos
23-08-05, 23:07
thanks Muscleboss gia tis simboules, mono pou mou kanes tin kardia periboli tora.
Tin diatrofi mou tin prosexo kai ta kila pou bala den mou fenontai re si mono gia nero,omos opos eipes tha to do sto telos tou kiklou.
Tora ksiafniazomai giati den einai i proti fora pou perno creatini, eperna dyo xronia se diastimata 100% creatini me dextrozi kai proteini kai pote den to katafera auto,kathe fora sto telos tou kiklou diladi se 6 bdomades siplirona ta 4 kila eno tora mesa se dyo bdomades pira 3
Perno Isolat giati exo akousei oti afomoionete poli grigora oso gia tin timi 45 euroulakia den tin pira akribi,to idio tha mou bgaine kai i whey concentrate kai afomoionete poli pio arga.
Oso gia to nitric den to ksera auto kai tha to psakso,se alla forum to exoun gia to proion(na sou po kai ego an kai mono dyo bdomades to perno it's Ok).
Re si Muscleboss den tin brisko toso lanthasmeni epilogi apla den perimena tetoio apotelesma,alli parakalan na broun tetoio.
telika apofasisa na to trabikso mexri to telos kai as balo kai 10 kilopoula.

thanks Boss

Muscleboss
25-08-05, 15:01
gorilako,

ta 3 kila pou evales de sou fainontai mono gia nero... tote mallon gia lipos tha sou fainontai giatise 3weeks den prolavaioneis na valeis poitiki myiki maza.. plaka kano... ta perissotera omos einai nera.:)

prin tin porponisi den thes isolate giati apla den thes amesi aporofisi aminoxeon. isolate tha sou proteina mono to proi kai post-workout.

to nitic einai apotelesmatiko opos sou eipa alla exei kapoia stoixeia epikindinotitas. akomi den exei apodeixthei pouthena oti epidra stin ayxisi tis myikis mazas.

den eipa oti i epilogi sou itan lanthasmeni alla oti tha mporouse na itan kaliteri efoson stoxeyes se apotelesmata pou tha diatisouses meta ton kyklo kai oix se nera kai priximata ta perissotera apo ta opoia tha exafanistoun meta.

oi alloi pou les parakalan ti? na valoun 5-10 kila nero kai na pristoun? ayto einai to pio aplo, to dyskolo einai na valeis kathara poiotika kila.

synexise ayto pou akaneis kai enimerose mas gia ta apotelesmata sou.

Muscleboss

gorilakos
25-08-05, 19:27
thanks Boss gia tis simboules kai tha se enimeroso se treis bdomades an epiase o kiklos i oxi.Pantos ta killa mou fenontai kathara ta opoia pira giati kano diatrofi kai den mou fenete na exo katholou lipos. :lol:

Bane
26-08-05, 00:50
I kreatini prokali katakratisi igron mesa stus mis. Opote perno kreatini vazo 4kg pu ta xano otan ime off. Den milame gia lipos.

gorilakos
03-09-05, 02:13
telos tritis bdomadas kai sinolo kilon pou ebala ( 4,5 ) ante akoma treis kai pame gia xriso :D

Muscleboss
04-09-05, 19:35
Gorilako, gia na eisai apolyta sigouros gia tin ayxisi tou varous sou na zygizese to proi molis sikonesai apo to krevati kai afou exeis... xemperdepsei me tis fysikes sou anages.
4,5 kila den einai kai liga, elpizo na exei sxetika periorismeno to alati stin diatrofi sou.

Muscleboss

gorilakos
05-09-05, 00:05
Gorilako, gia na eisai apolyta sigouros gia tin ayxisi tou varous sou na zygizese to proi molis sikonesai apo to krevati kai afou exeis... xemperdepsei me tis fysikes sou anages.
4,5 kila den einai kai liga, elpizo na exei sxetika periorismeno to alati stin diatrofi sou.

Muscleboss

diatrofi prospatho na kano oso to dinato kaliteri,alati para poli periorismeno.auti tin stigmi mono me kotopoulo,galopoula,tono kai rizi eimai.

zigizomoun sinexeia meta tin gimnastiki.ontos exeis dikio to proi molis sikonome kai kseperdebo me to perito baros sto stomaxi mou, blepo pos ebala mono 4 kila.den peirazei omos akoma treis bdomades minane. :P

Morphyne
19-09-05, 14:33
basika file gorilako ama sxefteis oti enas natural bobybuilder to xrono lew to xrono mporei na balei se muscle 1,5kg kathara ,afto simenei oti ama kaneis sosti diatofh exei ritenzione idrica diladi mazebeis nero ,ap tin allli ama den kaneis diatrofh einai kairos na xekiniseis na anarotiesai giati wrea ta priximata alla xriazete na einai kai katharo dld egw px to ximona prospathw na exw tous protous kiliakous na fenonte opote na exw ipo elenxw to soma mou oxi ta kg!! to kalokeri blepw ta apotelesmata se baros :wink:

gorilakos
21-09-05, 23:40
basika file gorilako ama sxefteis oti enas natural bobybuilder to xrono lew to xrono mporei na balei se muscle 1,5kg kathara ,afto simenei oti ama kaneis sosti diatofh exei ritenzione idrica diladi mazebeis nero ,ap tin allli ama den kaneis diatrofh einai kairos na xekiniseis na anarotiesai giati wrea ta priximata alla xriazete na einai kai katharo dld egw px to ximona prospathw na exw tous protous kiliakous na fenonte opote na exw ipo elenxw to soma mou oxi ta kg!! to kalokeri blepw ta apotelesmata se baros :wink:

oraios re si,omos ego allios skeftomai.

se liges meres teleiono me to programa kai meta mono sintirisei mexri ta xristougena.

ksexasa na po ebalá mexri tora 6 kila (proino zigisma) an mou minoun ta 3,5 eimai yper eyxaristimenos.I dinami mou auksithike fantastika kai anarotieme kai o idios mou an minei kai meta to kiklo.

gorilakos
14-10-05, 10:23
mia bdomada meta to telos tou programatos kai eimai poli anebasmenos.stois askiseis bazo ta idia killa kai bgazo kai to programa.telika manges eitan tromero to programa anebika trella.tora to mono pou thelo einai na minoun toulaxiston ta misa kila pou eballa.

gorilakos
15-11-05, 22:31
manges enas minas paei pou teleiosa to programa pou eixa kanei kai den exasa kanena kilo.tha to ksanadokimaso :wink:

Muscleboss
15-11-05, 23:54
gorilaki :lol: ,

metrise pososto somatikou lipous prin kai meta ton kyklo na katalavoume kalitera ti ginetai.

Muscleboss

gorilakos
16-11-05, 16:01
gorilaki :lol: ,

metrise pososto somatikou lipous prin kai meta ton kyklo na katalavoume kalitera ti ginetai.

Musclebossmuscleboss kano poli kali diatrofi kai lipos den mou fenete na ebala katholou. tha pao gia metrisei giati me ebales tora se mia megali aporia.